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Post by boebustr on Feb 15, 2006 18:41:22 GMT -5
I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHY THE TRUTH IS SUCH A PROBLEM FOR THIS SITE ? i found out about the morality of one of our board members and how she conducted her self while our budget was being voted on and instead of letting people know what the president of the BOE and the VP were doing.....once again we choose to just put our blinders on and ignore the problem, I for one will not let this message board stop the truth about the remaining BOE member fall by the waste side. I am very disappointed in the admin for hiding the fact that we have a potential problem here.
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Post by Admin on Feb 15, 2006 20:31:11 GMT -5
I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHY THE TRUTH IS SUCH A PROBLEM FOR THIS SITE ? i found out about the morality of one of our board members and how she conducted her self while our budget was being voted on and instead of letting people know what the president of the BOE and the VP were doing.....once again we choose to just put our blinders on and ignore the problem, I for one will not let this message board stop the truth about the remaining BOE member fall by the waste side. I am very disappointed in the admin for hiding the fact that we have a potential problem here. On the contrary, the truth is NOT a problem for this site. In fact many truths have been told here. Unsupported rumors are a problem. Posting rumors is not what this message board is about. Unless you have actual FIRST HAND knowledge of this issue, future rumor postings on anyone's personal life will be deleted.
No one has blinders on. Most people in this community are very well aware of the rumors that are circulating. If there is truth to any rumor, then it will come forth. Until then, I will maintain the position of deleting any rumors.
If you are truly disturbed by these allegations then I implore you to seek any actual facts. Once your facts are obtained, then you are free to share them.
By the way: Happy Belated Birthday!
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Post by boebustr on Feb 16, 2006 17:10:00 GMT -5
TO THE ADMIN One thing that i do respect is your very professional replies, and thank you for the Birthday wishes. I respect your deleting the post as well, but i assure you proof will follow. It is not a rumor about the divorce, that is the truth. I apologize if i came off Little harsh, but for some reason people in this community seem to just let things go instead of doing something. They all complain about things but do not react to them. I for one feel this is a major problem and how this board member has not resigned is a big f--- you to all of us in the community. I almost feel that she feels she is untouchable and it angers me. At least the former President of the BOE Mr Dick did what should have been done. The next issue is what to do with the chummy superintendent ?? I do not understand that if the BOE hires and gives his review and furthermore gives him raises, what is he doing spending so much time with BOE members in a non professional setting and only certain ones ?? Is this not a big conflict of interest or is he that stupid ?? Once again i love the site and appreciate you maintaining it, it is a great place to vent and raise questions ;D
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Post by delilah on Feb 16, 2006 17:16:18 GMT -5
Wow
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Post by Go Plainedge! on Feb 16, 2006 17:42:00 GMT -5
See what you miss when you don't stop by that often - ;D BOEBUSTR: What better person to befriend than the person that gives your performance review and approves your raise?
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Post by boebustr on Feb 22, 2006 22:40:57 GMT -5
delilah THANK YOU ;D IT'S ABOUT TIME SOMEBODY FEELS THE WAY I DO ABOUT THE PRACTICES OF THE CURRENT AND FORMERS BOE MEMBERS. I FIND IT A VERY BIG CONFLICT OF INTEREST FOR ONLY CERTAIN BOE MEMBERS TO BEFRIEND THE SUPER, BUT ONLY ENOUGH OF THEM THAT CAN SWAY A VOTE. ALSO IF YOU HIRE SOMEONE AND REVIEW SOMEONE FOR RAISES AND GIVE THAT PERSON RAISES SHOULD YOU REALLY BE SO CHUMMY WITH HIM ?? GOING TO BARS AND GOD KNOWS WHAT ELSE I REALLY DON'T LIKE WHAT HAS HAPPENED AND WHAT IS GOING ON. I WILL BE LEADING A CRUSADE TO GET RID OF THESE MORAL REJECTS AND WILL NOT REST UNTIL THE SUPER IS WORKING IN ANOTHER POSITION...PERHAPS FLIPPING BURGERS THIS ARROGANT B--TARD MUST NOT GET AWAY WITH WHAT HE IS DOING... THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT, THE SAGA CONTINUES
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Post by techie on Feb 22, 2006 23:30:35 GMT -5
BOEBUSTER
Alot more people have agreed with you about the BOE.
We should remember though, WE put them there.
Some of us thought that with some "young blood" coming to the BOE that things could change. That ended up being a bad choice. Maybe time will give some strength to this member.
We should, in my opinion, change the way that we vote for the BOE. It should not be an election for a particular seat, but as a position on the BOE. Why don't ALL BOE members run for a chair this time, and let the candidates with the MOST support/votes rule. I'm sure that we have qualified people from the community that would run. ( I've spoken to 2 so far) We should all realize that there is a learning curve for these very difficult positions of recovery and understand that it takes time to fix problems that have been here for a while.
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Post by themom on Feb 23, 2006 10:18:46 GMT -5
I have to certainly agree that "WE" put them there. Why did we put them there? PROMISES! It started with the Bond Issue, VOTE it down we were told they would do right by the community. That was LIE #1, as soon as they were on the Board & in Richmans pocket the bond issue was the best thing in the world. In the end this turned out to be was a popularity contest & I for one have had enough.
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Post by rinx on Feb 23, 2006 12:23:02 GMT -5
themom, you're 100% on the money.
2 people in particular made that promise. One of the two that said they would do the right thing recently resigned (thankfully). The other is the sitting president, Richman's mini-me as I like to call him. Heave-ho..Mallow's gotta go!
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Post by Go Plainedge! on Feb 23, 2006 16:42:29 GMT -5
Like I mentioned in a another post, after Mallow admitted that he made a mistake with the Fireman's Exemption motion, I believe that he will NOT be voted back in IF he decides to run again.
Mom, I agree that it is a popularity contest. It seems like the one with the most signs posted in the neighborhood, wins.
A perfect example; The last board member that was voted in. She had signs all over the place and thought/thinks she is the social butterfly.....and I don't mean Pat Zinke.
I thought that the streaming video of the Meet the Candidate was a good idea. Unfortunately for us, Mr. Cimino made a poor showing, therefore the other candidate won. Mr. Cimino didn't believe in advertising and that was his downfall.
I think the candidates should be questioned by the COMMUNITY not the school administration.
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Post by gopybl on Feb 23, 2006 19:50:38 GMT -5
I agree with you Go Plainedge! The community should be made aware of the candidates stance on certain topics and issues which are of importance to the community. I do believe that questions from the Community need to be incorporated into the Meet the Candidate format. The other thing which needs to be addressed is the BOE's calculated placement of candidates to ensure the sanctity of the Board. Having some School Board Members run unopposed for a seat because you have another that you are confident will win, is not in the best interests of the community. The community needs to have the best people in place for the job.
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Post by justfacts on Feb 23, 2006 23:03:49 GMT -5
Please recognize that I really don't want to be the "Wet Blanket" on this topic.
Divorce, excessive "chumminess", people's right to know and review new candidates, personal popularity and promotion by candidates, false promises made by them, the seating order of BOE loaded, etc., are all threads that have arisen on this topic.
But - there is one fact that can't be overlooked. there are many capable residents among us that don't run! Therein lies the seeds for all these other threads.
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Post by Go Plainedge! on Feb 24, 2006 9:17:34 GMT -5
Just: There ARE many qualified people in this community that could serve us well as a BOE member. However, the time devoted to that roll is not something that everyone has available. The next negative I see is the invasion of personal life - as you can see, on all levels. This is something someone has to be WELL prepared for and agree to accept if they want to be a BOE member. Many people just don't want that liability and don't understand it comes with the territory. HOWEVER, I also believe that if you serve the community well, do a great job and maintain good communication with the members of the community, all the negatives diminish. If you do a bad job, then you'll never experience the negatives diminishing. So, with that being said, are you ready to start printing up YOUR campaingn signs?
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Post by justfacts on Feb 24, 2006 13:41:39 GMT -5
Go Plainedge!
Yes! There can be a lot of exposure for anyone that volunteers to be a Board member. Not all of it is for the purpose of satisfying one's ego, not all of it is abusive.
Nor is there anything that prevents the personal abuse one goes through when, not even as a Board member or as a Trustee, one simply stands up and voices one's own opinion at meetings. I personally know that to be true.
There are some people among us that are not as calm as others and can let themselves be worked up enough by "pot-stirrers" to actually take physical actions (like car windshield smashings and "eggings") against others who say things they don't want to hear.
I had finger jabbing in the chest performed on me by Mr. Dick in the Auditorium meeting of the prior year's Budget hearing because I unsuccessfully tried to call for a "Point of Order" in an attempt to aid the school's position in that meeting.
Apparently Mr. Mallow, who chairs meetings and is too use to the "I am the Power" system of running meetings to realize what a Point of Order call is all about. That something one can learn about by being a Board member. Unfortunately, he has been too "challenged" to date to learn such things.
To some, that's the "down side" of volunteering for a Board position - one has a lot to learn and grow with. Personally, I find that to be very rewarding - others seem to think it is a chore that they rather not do - learn and apply new things.
But speaking from the experience of more than three decades of being on the Library Board and half a decade on the Nassau Library System Board, I've learned and applied much. I've also met many others that have done the same.
This present Library Board has come through and weathered a recent and most serious challenge to any independently Chartered Educational Institution in the State - having to operate without the operational funds properly passed thru to it as required by Education Law.
How amazingly well they functioned together, with the aid of the Library staff!. Their hammered out suvival and corrective plans and actions actually gave me goose-bumps of pride to have served with such good people. Differing viewpoints were often strongly presented and debated and better solutions, often not initially thought about, resulted from the heated debates. Those debates forged better solutions that almost all approved and all now continue to support.
That is the major benefit of volunteering to run for a Board - the opportunity to work with neighbors that can do it right! They - make changes and improvements - respond to neighbor's needs - and provide for the whole community; Pre-K, Children, Young Adults, Adults and Seniors, with a center for the activities and growth that THEY want to pursue!
No egos come into play, no personal agendas permitted. That is a Board that makes the efforts of running and serving very worthwhile.
Since there are 6242 homes listed in Plainedge, there are probably twice that many that are eligible to run for a Board position - about 12,000. About 30+% of them voted on last year's budget - over 4,000.
There should be about one or two percent of the 12,000 that really have the ideal character and capability to become Board members. (I admit, it does take time to do that - 1 or 2 years of actually serving, developing and learning)
But, it is sad that so few don't take advantage of the great opportunity to serve on the Board. Out of 12,000 there's got to be at least 120 to 240 capable persons in our community - capable to the point that all the so called "negative things" about serving on a Board will disappear!
These negative things can be set aside and discarded in a few years of excellent BOE performance, free from some of the failures to perform for the community that we see too much of with just a few of the recent BOE members.
Yes, the BOE performance record for this community has been "not the best" - but it does not mean that not all members have not tried their best. Their best may not hold a candle to what you could do as a Board member.
It is unfair to yourself to sit by and complain - without putting in your few years or so on the Board. The reward for you - and Plainedge - can be great - so drop the "too busy" excuses and give it a shot.
I've done it for three decades and don't regret one meeting! During most of that time, as an Officer in many competitive businesses here on Long Island - I was a busy with 10 and 12 hours days, working through Father's Day and etc., as any of you are now doing. If you're inclined - you'll make the time!
You owe it to yourself and you owe it to Plainedge - but mostly, you owe it to all the present and future Children of Plainedge! So, go file your petition - I'll help you!
Right now, I'm doing the best I can where I am - and I don't want to dilute that effort - not while there are so many of you that I know could do the BOE job so well!
Ed
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Post by Go Plainedge! on Feb 24, 2006 17:23:54 GMT -5
Just, I agree with everything you are saying.
Unfortunately, this Administration and BOE have a reputation of being vindictive. If you're part of their "click" and don't agree with them than you're SOL. This stems from the two "senior" members.
Personally, I am not ready for that exposure.
Does anyone know who is up for re-election this year?
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