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Post by justfacts on Aug 26, 2005 17:16:41 GMT -5
In the August 17 issue of the Massapequa Post, Board member Ellen Ryder speaks out telling a Mrs. Miller how wrong she is and what a wonderful job the Board does.
Well, I guess it's a wonderful job ~ that is if you keep repeating your own hype and ignore actual numbers and responses from the community! Must be nice to have meetings where you don't allow the community to disturb your daydreams!
As an example: Ellen goes on to tell Mrs. Miller how this "Board has already decreased the number of administrators from 24 to 18 in the last few years -" It's a story often repeated by the Board and the Administration. You've seen it in their literature often.
Well, let's just take a look at some information about these last few years, nine years worth to be exact. That's the amount of time that the District has been required to file with Albany the true story about Administrators and their Salaries.
In 1997/8 there were a total of 15 of the three types of Administrators in a School System ~ Superintendents (Type1), their assistants of all kinds (Type 2) and the Principles and other administrators in each School Building (Type 3).
The total number was 15 in 1997/8. That moved to 17, 18, 17, 19 ,17 and 15; to 16 last year and now to 18. I count that as ranging from 17 +/- 2 administrators over a nine year spread, not anywhere near the claim of "24 decreased to 18 in the last few years"
Hey Ellen, What's your definition of the last few years? ~ or did you mean in the last decade or two?
Keep up the letters Mrs. Miller, maybe we'll find out more about how this Board plays loose with what the community can now find out to be the truth!
P.S. For those interested in numbers; the cost of all the Plainedge Administrators over those nine years rose at an annual compounded rate of 7.25% per year - in excess of any COL rate increase!
And the cost of the Type 1 Superintendent over the last four of these years has risen at an annual compounded rate of 8.1%. A 1.364 times increase in 4 years.
The bottom line is we use to pay $1,402,479 for all administration "in the past few years" ~ now we pay $2,459,158! That's just about a million more per year while all of these "Ellen decreases" have been going on!
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Post by jdavola on Sept 1, 2005 14:59:38 GMT -5
Hey genius.....you sound pretty smart...run for the board and actually do something to make a difference.
This board was not created for people to start fights. Please refrain from this type of behavior. This forum was created to discuss the school distrcit and many of the issues surrounding it - Administrator
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Post by justfacts on Sept 1, 2005 16:00:41 GMT -5
jdavola,
Thanks for the compliment!
Oh!, by the way, did I strike a nerve on this one?
(Pointing out that the facts filed with the State don't match the "facts" spoken locally to the Plainedge residents?)
I think that action in itself makes a difference - (B)oard (S)tuff to the voters will be checked and corrected where it's wrong. Where it's right it'll be lauded!
And by the way, runing for the Board isn't the only way to make a difference! Want some clues? Section 310.
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Post by jdavola on Sept 1, 2005 16:08:53 GMT -5
hey genius, do something postive...pray for the people of New Orleans.
This board was not created for people to start fights. Please refrain from this type of behavior. This forum was created to discuss the school district and many of the issues surrounding it - Administrator
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Post by techie on Sept 7, 2005 20:32:20 GMT -5
Since this is a post that gets some attention, can I ask if anyone else has looked into the reasons for the www.plainedgeschools.org forum to be shut down? Not just the forum shut down, but the things that this new forum has found out about , such as the selective shut down of certain information at a time it was to be examined. Since this IS a COMMUNITY FORUM and the BOARD & Mr.Richman are aware of it , it would be a good place for them to post to, to give us ALL the information they need to and we ask for. It has nothing to do with "Fancy Technology", to respond to this forum is the same as writing an E-mail.
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Post by Go Plainedge! on Sept 7, 2005 21:08:46 GMT -5
Techie:
I was somewhat thinking the same thing today.
With all that is posted here, I'm surprised that none of the administration nor the current board members have decided to post some information here to try and dispel some rumors or offer some updated information about the school district.
I wonder if anyone (BOE member) is really questioning the status of the website and the fact that Cynthia's personal hosting company site is down for this amount of time.
I am very confused as to the reasoning why a back-up tape wasn't utilized to restore the site. Based on the current site, there is some hosting available and minimal information. Someone could have even transferred the site to a new hosting company and been up and running with in 2 days. I believe a transfer takes about 48 hours to fully propagate.
My pessimism is getting the best of me. It appears that this school district is turning into a three ring circus of tricks and deceptions. It's so disheartening and they show NO interest in rectifying any situation nor do they have any sense or urgency.
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Post by concerned on Sept 7, 2005 21:34:51 GMT -5
What I don't understand is how if the web site is down, all the information per school has been updated as recently as last week and is visible. Why doesn't the administration at least send out a note saying that you can still access the information you need by going directly to the individual school's web site. Ex. Try: www.plainedgeschools.org/Eastplain
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Post by concerned on Sept 7, 2005 21:41:39 GMT -5
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Post by techie on Sept 8, 2005 10:53:23 GMT -5
Check out the links for clip art at the Eastplain site. I looked for sports and found a sexy lady "cartoon " riding a bowling pin. When did bowling become a sport? Jus' kidding, but I will not let my kid use any clip art from the sites. We should all be doing any computer work WITH our kids for just this reason. It' bad enough for kids to surf the net , but I kind of expected the links from the school sites to be scanned through and safe.
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Post by rinx on Sept 8, 2005 12:41:07 GMT -5
Apparently, someone is watching this forum. The Eastplain & Schwarting sites are now down.
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Post by Go Plainedge! on Sept 8, 2005 13:22:49 GMT -5
"....ooops, we missed that one. Quick, SHUT IT DOWN!"
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Post by techie on Sept 8, 2005 14:56:10 GMT -5
I have to deeply apologize to all of the parents and children in this District.
I am very sorry that my actions of reporting things that I find that are of concern to myself, my family and friends could cause the shutdown of more sites in this community.
I would think that the Administration would be more carefull and only turn off the links that they have to the questionable material. This seems to be a (Oh my god, shut it down!) type of response. The site has been up and running for a while and only the rash actions of the Administration bring more light to the sites. Don't they think we copied the sites? By not showing it , IT does not go away.
Now should we all go to a Board Meeting to get our information, or should we see what else is there?
This is just another point of who is controlling the sites. Can we really believe that the other site was "Serial Hacked" or was it just turned off?
The Elementary School pages were shut down about 2 hours after I posted. I'm glad to see that this Forum is being watched so closely. But I hope it wasn't being watched by someone that was supposed to be working for us at the time. Oh well, I would rather pay someone to watch and listen to the community then to have a "conference". OOPPPS!!! Aren't we already paying someone to do just that?
I'll join some of the other posters,.....
Peace out, Pray for the hurricane victims. And I mean it. We have been praying and have family that is helping out down there. These people need all that we can give. Remember, If not for but the grace of God, there go I.
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Post by Go Plainedge! on Sept 8, 2005 18:33:50 GMT -5
LOL....now what will we do. Not a big loss. It's not like those sites had the latest and greatest information on them. But, it does prove that 'big brother" is watching ;D
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Post by concerned on Sept 8, 2005 21:57:12 GMT -5
Techie-I don't think you caused the web site to be shut down. Frankly, I hesitated last night to mention the back door approach to getting into the web site. But, I decided to post it because I saw that a lot of the information was up-to-date and I figured the parents could use the access. Has anyone inquired with the Board of Ed or the Administration why we now can't access the site even through the back door? I'd be interested in knowing the answer.
I too apologize if by stating something on this forum it led to something else being shut down.
Has anyone heard how long before the web site will be back up and running? It's a shame not having access to teacher's e-mail addresses, etc. Sometimes, it's the easiest way to get through to the teachers to get your questions answered.
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Post by techie on Sept 8, 2005 23:55:40 GMT -5
Thanks to "concerned"!
I thought that most could tell that my apology was tongue & cheek.
I wouldn't apologize for bringing out facts to people. That is everyones responsibility.
The original statement made about the school site remember, was that a "serial hacker" got to it. I find it odd that if this was the case, why someone with the talents of a Kevin Poulen would waste time on the school site. Also odd is the continuing shutting down of the web pages. This puts the Board and Mr. Richman in a tough spot. On one hand if they say that this is the continuing work of the notorious serial hacker, it would show that the I.T. people in the districts employ are not working well. On the other hand, if they shut it down, that would make more people believe the original thoughts about censorship. If someone "hacked" the site it would be a federal crime. Why hasn't the Administration followed up with the proper authorities? Remember that we are all just finding out what is going on. "WE" aren't the ones shutting things down, it was done by someone of "Position". And yes, the shut down does alot of damage to the kids and teachers. Of course I would think that the Email addresses of the teachers and faculty could be listed here. This is a "Community Forum" and it does have Email for members. The email is at the top when you log on.
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