Tuesday, Sept. 13 Meeting

[techie]

As we have found out before that Nemesis2 is registered to Cynthia LaPier at an address in Ithaca NY. You can also see that "A" Cythia LaPier was also Director of Educational Technology for the Ithaca City Schools.
Along with that here is an old email from "A" Cynthia LaPier in Ithaca NY that worked for WEB GALAXY in that city.
This job I would guess, since it is from the year 2000, would have given her a "slight" background.
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Basic LDAP Samba question
Cynthia LaPier cynthia at email.webgalaxy.com
Wed Jan 19 14:25:46 GMT 2000

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When I do ./configure --with-ldap
I get this error:
checking whether to use PAM password database... no
checking whether to use LDAP password database... yes
configure: error: LDAP password database not supported in this version.

LDAPFLAGS = -I/usr/local/etc/openldap/include
-L/usr/local/etc/openldap/lib
FLAGS1 = $(CFLAGS) $(LDAPFLAGS) -Iinclude -I$(srcdir)/include
-I$(srcdir)/ubiqx -I$(srcdir)/smbwrapper $(CPPFLAGS)
-DSMBLOGFILE=\"$(SMBLOGFILE)\" -DNMBLOGFILE=\"$(NMBLOGFILE)\"

Anyone know why I am this is happening? Thank you, Cynthia

P.S. Extraneous info - two weeks ago at the Barnes & Noble in NYC on Union
Square, there were great quantities of Samba books, yesterday there was one
left - is this a movement? (As Arlo Guthrie might put it).

Cynthia LaPier
IT Development
Web Galaxy, Inc.
1001 West Seneca Street, Suite 100
Ithaca, New York 14850
Phone: [phone] Fax: [phone]



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* Subject: Re: GEN: Silicon Snake Oil
* From: Cynthia LaPier <[e-mail]>
* Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 21:55:41 -0400

Robert - I missed your first message somehow, but.... I have been reading
Stoll's book and I have recently attended two statewide meetings on
telecommunications and technology and I am depressed!!! I think Stoll has
some good points and is asking some hard questions. I also think he is a
technician and not a user-user. And sometimes I want to tell him to quit
whining and get on with it!

This year we have done an assessment series - bringing in a vendor per
month to see what kind of software they have that deals with assessment.
Well my conclusion is that it is all very expensive garbage. I hate their
philosophy that a school can put on the resources needed in this one
database and generate lesson plans and tests and know what kids are doing
and where they are at. My point is that there are times when technology
does not do it! It will not help kids! It will not make teaching better!
This is going to be an unpopular stance at my place of employment - but
if you also read Thomas More, then you will understand that it is more
important to find out who we are and why we here!

Then at this Model Schools meeting today an IBM snake oil salesman came
in and told us that IBM has developed the training package that will
solve all of our problems. Puuullllleeeeeasssseeeee! Forgive us for not
being so stupid to believe that one! And then he has the nerve to say
that everytime he asks someone about why they have an Internet
connection, they have no answer. I told him he was talking to the wrong
people. If one person uses the connecction to talk to her kid at college
- isn't that okay, isn't that a use today. Maybe tomorrow it will be to
talk to someone else - to learn something - to find something. Do we have
to come up with huge reasons. What if the reason is to help kids be
prepared to deal with this technological intrusion on their lives and
their privacy. What if it is to help them realize that they are a market
force - that as long as they want to read a newspaper and they buy a
newspaper, there will be a newspaper. And that by being a market force
they have a responsibility to understand and to influence - to NOT let
the techies take over.

Enough rambling - my recommendation is to read Neil Postman(is that right
or is it Posten - sorry) Technopoloy - it is much better - writing is
better, based more on fact, not so "bratty", sorry Stoll but I keep
thinking that your book is getting so much press, this is something our
school boards will latch onto and as those of you who have dealt with
censorhsip know, they will not read the book but they will profess to
know all about it.

Well Bob, I don't know what you said but you got me going! If you get a
chance send me your original message. And on a personal note - see you
next week!!!!!

Cynthia LaPier, MLS
SCT BOCES Computer Services Center
School Library System
459 Philo Rd. Elmira, NY 14903
FON 607-739-3581 FAX [phone]


ITHACA NET
NTC97
Networking Tompkins County
Networking the Future
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Cynthia LaPier, Director of Information and Instructional Technology, Ithaca City School District, "Where are we and where are we going? A Roadmap". A status report of technology development at ICSD, an overview of how they plan to focus on instructional computing and integration of technology tools into the curriculum. In her position, Cynthia is responsible for the ICSD library computer system, Internet services, and instructional technology. Before coming to Ithaca she was at SCT BOCES for 12 years.


I would, ahem, "assume", that this would make her adept at public speaking.[/color]
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LaPier, Cynthia
Supervisor
School Library System, SCT BOCES
439 Philo Rd.
Elmira, NY 14903
Telephone:[phone]
Fax:[phone]
Institution's Grade Levels:
Special Interests: Telecommunications, Empowerment
Professional Memberships: NYLA -SLMS, will send in AASL
[e-mail]

[techie]

As far as other people being from "upstate" the only name I found so far was the first other one that I looked for.
That name was Jeffrey Burns. It turns out that there is one in the Ithaca NY area. The person is presently Transportation Supervisor for the Trumansburg Schools.
So I guess this is not our Mr. Burns,....UNLESS,.....Would you like to meet my brother Larry, and my other Brother Larry? ;D

[yruohk]

As we have found out before that Nemesis2 is registered to Cynthia LaPier at an address in Ithaca NY. You can also see that "A" Cythia LaPier was also Director of Educational Technology for the Ithaca City Schools.

Along with that here is an old email from "A" Cynthia LaPier in Ithaca NY that worked for WEB GALAXY in that city.
This job I would guess, since it is from the year 2000, would have given her a "slight" background.
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Cynthia LaPier cynthia at email.webgalaxy.com
Wed Jan 19 14:25:46 GMT 2000

When I do ./configure --with-ldap
I get this error:
checking whether to use PAM password database... no
checking whether to use LDAP password database... yes
configure: error: LDAP password database not supported in this version.

LDAPFLAGS = -I/usr/local/etc/openldap/include
-L/usr/local/etc/openldap/lib
FLAGS1 = $(CFLAGS) $(LDAPFLAGS) -Iinclude -I$(srcdir)/include
-I$(srcdir)/ubiqx -I$(srcdir)/smbwrapper $(CPPFLAGS)
-DSMBLOGFILE=\"$(SMBLOGFILE)\" -DNMBLOGFILE=\"$(NMBLOGFILE)\"

Anyone know why I am this is happening? Thank you, Cynthia

Cynthia LaPier
IT Development
Web Galaxy, Inc.
1001 West Seneca Street, Suite 100
Ithaca, New York 14850
Phone: [phone] Fax: [phone]

[WOW! When I asked LaPier outside of the BOE mtg. last night, she remarked that explaining to me what happened as a result of the "hacker" would go way over my head....what an ignoramous I must have been to even ask! I should have known better, this certainly looks over my head but then shouldn't it have been explained so it could be understood by those who didn't? Maybe the BOE had difficulty understanding her explanation as they never even asked any questions.]

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* Subject: Re: GEN: Silicon Snake Oil
* From: Cynthia LaPier <[e-mail]>
* Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 21:55:41 -0400

Robert - I missed your first message somehow, but.... I have been reading Stoll's book and I have recently attended two statewide meetings on telecommunications and technology and I am depressed!!! ....

[Depressed? Maybe there's too much stress to handle with nemesis2.com that brings this about?]

This year we have done an assessment series - bringing in a vendor per month to see what kind of software they have that deals with assessment.Well my conclusion is that it is all very expensive garbage.

[Ouch! Assessment software? I'm not computer literate but would that imply that we have some expensive software that's garbage? What about our assessment software, is it better than what was referred to in the above remark? Or are they all the same? Read on!]

I hate their philosophy that a school can put on the resources needed in this one database and generate lesson plans and tests and know what kids are doing and where they are at.

[/b] [/blockquote]

My point is that there are times when technology does not do it! It will not help kids! It will not make teaching better! [/blockquote]

[Are we dealing with someone who has a split personality or maybe this is not the same LaPier? Our Chief Tech person doesn't appear to like technology? Maybe the crashing of the site had more to do with a personality clash?]

Then at this Model Schools meeting today an IBM snake oil salesman came in and told us that IBM has developed the training package that will solve all of our problems. Puuullllleeeeeasssseeeee! Forgive us for not being so stupid to believe that one!....

What if the reason is to help kids be prepared to deal with this technological intrusion on their lives and their privacy. What if it is to help them realize that they are a market force - that as long as they want to read a newspaper and they buy a newspaper, there will be a newspaper. And that by being a market force they have a responsibility to understand and to influence - to NOT let the techies take over.

[our students ONLY being a market force?...is this how a parent wants this Plainedge employee to think of their pride and joy?...Hey, Techie, guess you're the one to look out for. You have plans to "take over" Plainedge students and been keeping it secret?]

Well Bob, I don't know what you said but you got me going!

Cynthia LaPier, MLS
SCT BOCES Computer Services Center
School Library System
459 Philo Rd. Elmira, NY 14903
FON 607-739-3581 FAX [phone]

I don't know what got into me but I just got going with this one!

[Go Plainedge!]

I just wanted to add one more thing to my BOE Meeting report...

I found it odd that when Ms. LaPier started her statement playing down the relevance and urgency of the website and email by offering a weak comparison to the Penguins that travel 70 miles in the movie March of the Penguins.

She tried to say that these penguins work so hard and travel so far for so little and we're worried about email and websites.

Well if the Penguins had email and internet they would place an order online and not have to travel 70 miles...especially if their community of penguins were paying for the service!

Is that too shallow of me??? Yes, but realistic in the times we now live in. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

[techie]

I get more confused the more I read.
This article has a statement from Ms.LaPier speaking about a well designed Web Site . Then it goes on to say that a software program that teachers in "her" school used called BLACKBOARD COURSEINFO (which she would have implemented) was designed to make Web site building intuitive for teachers. Yet she tells us that when she first came to the district she didn't have any Web experience? What was WebGalaxy and Ithaca and SCT Boces?
Ah yes,... now watch my left hand very closely.........
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Start School With a Click

By REBECCA WINTERS


Sep. 13, 1999

Getting ready to go back to school in the good old days of, say, 1997 meant a few trips to the mall, a quick check of the bus route and a thorough sweep of the stationery aisle. This year, for many parents, there are some new things to remember: the teacher's e-mail address, the school's website or which night online homework help chat will be offered. "The 1999-2000 school year will be the one where the majority of parents really feel the Internet's influence on their child's education at the everyday level," says Jonathan Carson, chairman and ceo of the Family Education Co., based in Boston, which offers an informational parenting website at familyeducation.com and a framework for local schools to create and maintain their own sites.

In some schools, last year provided a hint of what was to come. This year promises to show a quantum leap in the spread of school technology: parents in many districts can expect to be able to check the school lunch menu, read class notes, see activity calendars and, perhaps best of all, view nightly homework assignments--all online. "The schools are wired," says Carson. "A majority of parents now have access, and the educators are ready to go."

Over the summer, parents of high school German students in Ithaca, N.Y., got to be part of a class trip to Europe, through their home computers. The class brought a digital camera and laptop with them to Germany and documented their visit on their web page. Harry Ash, father of 16-year-old traveler Brian, found it reassuring to see his son's smiling face from half a world away. "It gives me great comfort," Ash says, three days into the monthlong trip. "Brian's staying with a family that doesn't speak much English. This is new to him." Before their kids left, parents checked the site for scheduling information, a list of activities and advice on cultural differences. There were some glitches along the way (at one point, the digital photo files weren't transmitting properly). But this new virtual connection between parent and school is a strong alternative to the paper memos Carson calls "backpack mail," about one-third of which never makes it home on any given day.

When it's designed well, a district, school or classroom website can significantly change the relationship between the parent and the school, says Cynthia LaPier, Ithaca's director of information and instructional technology. "All the research says that the more you can involve parents in school, the better," LaPier says. "The technology gives us another way to reach them, especially parents of secondary school students, who tend to be less involved."

Ithaca high school physics teacher Steve Wirt gets e-mail from parents regularly, some from moms and dads he believes might otherwise not pick up the phone with a concern. Using software called Blackboard CourseInfo, designed to make website building intuitive for teachers, Wirt conducts online chats with his students, often reviewing for a quiz or discussing homework problems.

But Ithaca may not be the average place to take high school physics, or to parent: physicist Carl Sagan sent his children through the district that shares its small city with enormous Cornell University. That doesn't mean every family in town has a computer in the home. Ithaca has discussed opening its computer labs to parents and the community after hours. "We need to make sure we're not just reaching a fraction of the population," LaPier says. And parents do express concerns about their child's privacy, as well as access to inappropriate material online. But they're coming around, LaPier says.

The way things are going, by the end of this year, many parents may be fully converted--and in fact dependent upon their schools' technological capabilities. At a recently wired school in Novi, Mich., the school webmaster was just a few hours late posting the lunch-menu calendar on the website, which was created with the help of Carson's Family Education Co. In that time, more than a dozen parents called him to request the information. "A year ago, it never would have been there," says Carson. And now parents are finding it's tough to get by without it.

[concerned]

Techie and Plainedge-I was trying to cut and paste from your last post about the article involving the students who traveled to Germany and were video taped according to the article in which Ms. LaPier is quoted and then cut and pate the comments from Plainedge regarding the meeting two nights ago where Ms. LaPier explained that it was a "hacker" from Germany who used the site to host a video. Go back and read those two sections fully. It has to be coincidental.....I mean it. It must be right? But, how odd!

(Once I cut and pasted one item and went back to get the next item, my response was lost. If someone else can do it, please feel free too.)

[elphaba65]

The format changed from the SUMMER. In the summer they are a little more relaxed. Now that school is in session, they will follow the usual format (changing from the summer format) of a Tuesday work session and Thursday public session.

Mr. Dick explained Tuesday night that questions were allowed at the last meeting because it combined Tuesday and Thursday. As concerned stated, Tuesday have always been workshops, that is where you obtain the information to ask questions on Thursday night which is open for residents to speak.

As far as questions that BOE did not ask, do you notice the stack of papers they come in with? Maybe the questions you have are already explained to them. Rather than speculate to what they know or don't know my suggestion is to ask your questions tonight, they do have merit and you would be doing this website a service.

I am currently at a convention so I was unable to attend Dave Mejias' meeting last night. Does anyone have info on it? I will not be back until Saturday so will miss tonight's BOE meeting. Hopefully someone will fill in the details.

Have a great day!

[elphaba65]

* Subject: Re: GEN: Silicon Snake Oil
* From: Cynthia LaPier <[e-mail]>
* Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 21:55:41 -0400

Techie,

Where are you obtaining her e-mails from? Someone might accuse you of hacking!

[Admin]

elphaba65 said:

* Subject: Re: GEN: Silicon Snake Oil
* From: Cynthia LaPier <[e-mail]>
* Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 21:55:41 -0400

Techie,

Where are you obtaining her e-mails from? Someone might accuse you of hacking!

LOL....I was thinking the same thing

[rinx]

elphaba65 said:

* Subject: Re: GEN: Silicon Snake Oil
* From: Cynthia LaPier <[e-mail]>
* Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 21:55:41 -0400

Techie,

Where are you obtaining her e-mails from? Someone might accuse you of hacking!

I found the same postings on the net. They are not emails but postings on from usenet (board) similar to this.

[Go Plainedge!]

elphaba65 said:

As far as questions that BOE did not ask, do you notice the stack of papers they come in with? Maybe the questions you have are already explained to them. Rather than speculate to what they know or don't know my suggestion is to ask your questions tonight, they do have merit and you would be doing this website a service.

I like to give people the benefit of the doubt and say that you MIGHT be right. However, don't you think that it would behoove the BOE to make mention to the people in attendance that "this is what we already know". I know that it was not a Q&A session but they can't ignore the fact that members of the community are sitting there and are wondering why no one is asking any (what seem to be ) logical questions about the website situation (questions were asked regarding other issues).

As it's been stated in the past, the BOE is there to represent the best interests of the children and community, not the needs of the school administration. While Ms. LaPier was explaining the situation it was clear that some of them (BOE members) didn't quite understand but yet didn't question anything or ask for clarification.

Unfortunately, I don't think I'll be able to make tonight's meeting. However, I hope that whoever does go, asks intuitive questions and get a clear explanation.

If you attend, take LOTS of notes please. Please post the information here for all of us to read.

[techie]

"Rinx", you mean you found information on the "Information Highway"? That must mean you are a "Hacker"!! ;D

You are Exactly right about the things that are "POSTED", anyone, anywhere can read them and they don't go away.....
You have to be careful of what you post because it can come back to bite you. This is also true of emails because they are on other servers that may or may not be accessable to others.

"ELPHBA65", all you have to do is a search on www.google.com, or www.dogpile.com, or any other search engine for what you want. For example, go to google and type "John Richman" and see what happens!

"Concerned", some forums and email pages like you to stay "Live" when you are writing a post. Try this as it always works for me.
1) Download another "Browser" from the 'net. (preferably FIREFOX) -you can find it at "GOOGLE"
2) Install it on your machine. You can run multiple browsers on your machine at the same time.
3) You can now open IE and Firefox at the same time, just minimize the windows to switch back and forth. this way the forum that you are writing to does not close the window and you lose your info.

The reason I suggest multiple browsers first is that sometimes you may want to do more searches to correct information while you are writing a post.

You can also do a search on the downloads at www.cnet.com and look for a clipboard manager. This will expand the amount of things you can put on your clipboard (cut/paste) and give you the choice of which to put on.

OPERA is another fine Browser that I use.

I can tell you that I am NOT a Hacker/ Cracker/ Evil Person.
I AM a person that sets up and repairs computers and networks. I have been using computers since the"old 286" days when a massive HardDrive was 10mb and the internet was all just text! (early 1980's)

[yruohk]

elphaba65 said:

* Subject: Re: GEN: Silicon Snake Oil
* From: Cynthia LaPier <[e-mail]>
* Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 21:55:41 -0400

Techie,

Where are you obtaining her e-mails from? Someone might accuse you of hacking!

Elphaba...I'm surprised! From all your postings I would have thought you knew more than me about this computer world. Searching on the WWW is common knowledge and I would suggest, as Techie did, using a search engine for John Richman. Once there, don't confuse all the Rich-man's with Plainedge's one and only.

Guess you're on your laptop if you're away at a convention? Next time you're at a meeting, introduce yourself. You know me. It's always good to know those in the community who take an interest.

What convention are you at? I actually cancelled my placement at the convention I was to attend this weekend in New Orleans. I did cancel the week before the hurricane. I just had that deep, down gut feeling. My prayers are with them.

[techie]

Amusing isn't it?!?!

When something is written, that is in truth what was written, a finger points to "Hackers"

I myself would start to become more paranoid about things like "Key Capture Software and Hardware".
If I am on a computer that has open access to other people, (say an office environment) It is very easy to add a very small piece of Hardware that would record all the Keystrokes in a given period of time(day).
It is also fairly easy to have Software "delivered" to a computer to do the same thing and have the results directed back when you want.

The easy part is what is called "Phishing" in where you set up something that looks real and people just give you the confidential information that you ask for. ( this is highly illegal) What was that that Sy Symms always said?"An educated consumer is our best friend?"