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Post by momma3 on Sept 23, 2005 15:00:53 GMT -5
I was surfing thru the Plainedge website today and became nosy. I clicked on employment vacancies in and was redirected to a website thru boces. There alot of districts on this sight and it tells you what positions are available at each school. I am very curious as to why Plainedge is looking for an Academic Supervisor at the High School Level. Where would the money come from to hire such a person. Please read the job description and let me know what you all think? When you get to the Boces home page click the JOBS icon on top. Plainedge is the first job posting. I am outraged!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by techie on Sept 23, 2005 16:59:27 GMT -5
Please post the way that you got to that site.
We want to make sure that the information is correct and not just something fabricated.
In checking the Schools Web Site the only listings are for a BIO/Chem Teacher for the HS, Sub. Teachers for Elementary and Secondary, and Special Ed. Teachers K-12.
I was not directed to any BOCES Site.
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Post by momma3 on Sept 23, 2005 17:23:24 GMT -5
Hello! This is momma3. Please follow these steps exactly to see what I see!! Go into the Plainedge website. I clicked on District Information. Click on Employment Vacancies. Click on apply for a position at the bottom of the screen. It will bring you to Nassau Boces page. Click on the Yellow line that states Click Here. The title of the page reads OnLine Application System. Click on the Yellow Jobs button on the top. Plainedge wil then appear with the first ad for an Acedemic Supervisor. I am not that computer literate and probably stumbled on this by accident but it is there in Black and White!!!
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Post by justfacts on Sept 23, 2005 18:01:23 GMT -5
Just for anyone else that is curious. The difference between momma3's results and techie's results is that momma3 continued on and looked for a job. techie stooped at the "jobs" listing on the page - which lists jobs thereon from November 1st, last year. Both are right in their results - and that may be the core of what may often trouble all of us! Outdated data!  Like when there was an enormous outcry about test results - one party was looking at the "latest results" posted by Newsday and the State - while the other party was looking at the "latest results" that they had available - but were gotten after the date of the State results. Both were right - but both were incomplete in presenting the source and date of their data!  momma3 saw a BOCES listing that was made on September 15, which, I guess eventually, will be published on the Plainedge site when it gets around to being updated. ;D  As to whether there was money in the Contingency or the Proposed budgets for this position or not, that has to be verified or acknowledged by the School District. That might be a duplication of a past effort when the Budget was first presented, but evidently, the point was not heard loudly enough at the time.There is no need for them to do so, since it is a moot point now that the contingency budget has been approved - but it would be nice effort on their part to release some more details to the public now that the issue has come up. Spreading some good-will or mending some fences so to speak - without going into who, why, when or how the fences were destroyed!
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Post by momma3 on Sept 23, 2005 18:44:56 GMT -5
Thanks for the heads up that someone saw this besides myself. I am not for against hiring this person, I was just curious or concerned I should say as to who was going to foot the bill. It makes you wonder if you can not see this posting on the Plainedge website for a reason. Maybe I am just a suspicious person by nature!!
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Post by concerned on Sept 23, 2005 19:21:43 GMT -5
Momma3-You raise a very good question. I truly look forward to finding out the answer from the BOE and Admin. Afterall, everyone keeps touting that they have reduced the number of administrative positions. By my math, it appears that one may soon be added again. Maybe it is just a simple explanation....but not having it on our web site sure does seem curious.
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Post by justfacts on Sept 23, 2005 19:27:49 GMT -5
Hi momma3,
I believe that the reason for not seeing it on the school website is basically the lack "due diligence" in treating and using the web site as a prime source of communication. I do expect this to improve as we all begin to understand the benefit of this service. We all need some time to incorporate it into a frequently used, reliable and necessary tool used in our daily lives.
But you do have cause to be suspicious - as we all do.
The quality and reliability of data we have been receiving is not what we need. Too frequently numbers change and the explanation for why does not ring true with our common experience. Also, information statements are made that don't agree with information provided on State sites. The differences are often not explained - or told one way to the residents and another way to the State.
If you'd like, my e-mail address is on this site. Just login, go to members and there is my e-mail address. I'll reply to any request for details of what I say on this Forum. It's not that I haven't given details before on the Forum, it's just that those details get buried in all the other (let me be kind) "Chit-chat-bickering" that also goes into this forum. It's like trying to talk with another person when there are others loudly ranting, chanting and raving in the background.
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Post by yruohk on Sept 23, 2005 19:43:14 GMT -5
That was great PI work, Momma3!
I stumbled onto something as I went through the Plainedgeschools.org site and brought it to the attention to LaPier as well as mentioning it at the last BOE. I found some "unsupervised doors" on the elementary schools sites and thought the sites would have been checked by the Technology person in charge but evidently was missed.
Someone asked that I look at the schools sites after their child found something not nice. So, I looked and found that all the appropriate material, the lovely sites all the teachers set up, were removed. What a drastic measure to have taken when the links that allowed for entry to "inappropriate" sites are still there!
If you have children, ask them to find the links. It's simple, that's how I found--them by someone's child.
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Post by Go Plainedge! on Sept 23, 2005 20:14:13 GMT -5
Just so you are aware...the School District received additional AID funds this year. This money is being used to hire a new K teacher at West. Perhaps there is enough to hire this position too.
However, I keep hearing about an oil problem and wonder if hiring two new positions is a wise thing to do THIS year.
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Post by momma3 on Sept 23, 2005 20:47:44 GMT -5
I have a child at John H. West in Kindergarten and they did add another teacher because there were 25 children in each class Kindergarten. When our children's education is at stake it is very necessary to add teachers, but to add administrative type positions when our children are losing out on so many wonderful programs just doesn't seem right. Thanks for listening. We all need to stay on our toes. We are very lucky to live in a community (for the most part) that really does
put our children first.
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Post by frawg88 on Sept 24, 2005 13:04:43 GMT -5
Why does everyone get so carried away with all the high drama and suspicion? With all due respect, if you are all going to post onto this forum, then you really need to be more informed about the schools. The district has had an academic supervisor at the high school for the past several years. (Jonathon Klump, who has been at many BOE meetings with the HS principal.) He's a TEACHER (I think Social Studies) who teaches part of the day and does supervisory work part of the day. It was announced at one of the last few BOE meetings that he left to take an Assistant Principal job in another school district. (His name was on the personnel report at the back of the meeting agenda as a resignation.) So, if there's an ad to fill this position, it is to REPLACE him, not add more people!
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Post by frawg88 on Sept 24, 2005 13:18:48 GMT -5
By the way - why doesn't anyone think that Plainedge being #1 in Nassau County for 4th Grade Math Scores (tied with Jericho) and being #4 in Nassau County for 8th Grade Math Scores is important enough to mention?
That information is also available oon the district website.
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Post by justfacts on Sept 24, 2005 14:12:58 GMT -5
frawg88
Points well made in each of your last two posts!
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Post by momma3 on Sept 24, 2005 22:32:49 GMT -5
frawg88-thankyou for the information. My intent was not to create drama but to get some information from this forum. I am glad that someone was able to to clarify what this job posting was all about.This website is a great resource for us to be able to ask questions to things we might not get answers from elsewhere. Thanks! |
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Like when there was an enormous outcry about test results - one party was looking at the "latest results" posted by Newsday and the State - while the other party was looking at the "latest results" that they had available - but were gotten after the date of the State results. Both were right - but both were incomplete in presenting the source and date of their data! 
