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Post by formerworker on Apr 16, 2007 20:06:14 GMT -5
As I indicated on another post, Jamie LaBelle must be shown the door when Richman leaves. He is by far one of the very worst administrators that I ever interacted with while employed at Plainedge. He probably works less than 25 hours a week. He does not support all the teams (maybe none of the teams)- anyone ever see him at a game. He needs to be let go - tenure for him would be a real shame. Instead of supporting sports and parents of athletes - he goes out of his way to baricade himself in his office. Did he help out at last year's Award's night? He has the same disdain for the plainedge community that Richman has. Let the new superintendent start off with a good group of staff. Labelle needs to go. Wasn't it strange that Labelle did not attend some very important board meetings when middle school sports were discussed? Guess who told him not to attend them- Johnny boy! Is there anyone on this site that feels Labelle is good for Plainedge?
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Post by 1plainedge on Apr 16, 2007 20:51:36 GMT -5
AGREED! Which teams does he support if any? Who has seen him at games? Where was he when he should have been voicing his opinion supporting Developmental or talking up title 9. Why did he never fight to re-instate middle school sports to pre-austerity levels.
Tenure gives him a JOB FOR LIFE, we can do better, our kids deserve better!
This is one of the FEW things the BOE can truly affect... do the right thing!
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Post by mythreekids on Apr 17, 2007 21:20:35 GMT -5
Hey- If people are so concerned with this Labelle guy, why doesn't everyone write letters to the ENTIRE Board of Ed regarding your feelings on his tenure? That is where you will get action....
BTW- I have not seen him around AT ALL -- Even in the schools!!!! SHAME!!
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Post by formerworker on Apr 18, 2007 8:16:37 GMT -5
I really hope those that can will contact the school board. Richman may try to give his buddy a goodbye gift and stick it to the district by giving this guy tenure. It is now 9:15 am. Call his office and try to find him. Also call his office and try to find him at 2:15 pm. He's never around! Trust me, I know how this guy operates. BTW, does one of his sons work for a sports clothing and equipment store - haven't they recently gotten some of the bids on uniforms? Check that out!
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Post by formerworker on Apr 18, 2007 8:18:24 GMT -5
Almost forgot - when he takes days off, do they get registered and deducted from his days at Central? And does he do workshops on strength training and steriods on Plainedge time at other venues? Check those out as well.
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Post by plainedgeammo on Apr 18, 2007 11:59:34 GMT -5
In addition, he never attends any of the community events for the Youth Groups in the Area. Last Saturday was the Baseball parade...... He was a No-show. Coach Pisani and the Varsity Team were there....Even though they had a scrimmage to play. Coach Pisani thought it was important enough to attend. Field allotments are being reduced to the community groups and increased to the Select Organizations in the area... Where is the justice in that? He has been a No Show at Opening Days for PGSA, PYBL, Bobcats, PSC..... almost every organization. Shouldn't the Athletic director be integrally involved in the Farm Systems that feed his program? I think YES.....
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Post by devilsrus on Apr 18, 2007 20:30:10 GMT -5
I am not neither an apologist, proponent or detractor of the AD Please do not let the AD enter the VOTE YES debate Perhaps he will get a job with the former SUPT But....lets seperate the AD from the VOTE YES campaign....He is a non issue with regards to getting the budget passed....Lets not get distracted
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Post by formerworker on Apr 18, 2007 22:44:59 GMT -5
Go ahead - be one-sighted - vote yes on the budget and leave the back door open- I am not a disgruntled former employee. Who knows, maybe I am a present employee or even just a concernec parent of athletics. The point is that you might pass the budget and if you ignore the Labelle tenure- you will continue to have problems passing budgets in the future as he dismantles the sports programs and has outside sports groups fight against each other for field space. I will no longer post - I just am telling you- Beware of the gift left behind by Dr. Richman. Perhaps the previous poster is running interference for mr. labelle. I agree vote yes is important - the most - but don't close your eyes to other important issues.
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Post by bette on Apr 18, 2007 23:07:08 GMT -5
Devil
Are you saying that Plainedge is unable to handle more than one thing at a time? This is very important issue and needs to addressed ASAP.
We are just using this site to get the word out so this district gets the athletic department it needs.
Once the budget is voted yes on - and we haven't addressed this, we could be stuck with someone that is wasting the money we voted to put in his hands to run a department he obviously does not care about.
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Post by pedgeneeds on Apr 19, 2007 7:17:03 GMT -5
I agree Bette,
we can all divorce the 2 subjects from each other. Yes,we as a community have voted in the BOE members to REPRESENT US... not decide FOR US.. THAT is a huge difference!
The BOE needs to start understanding that their decision must be based on Administrative proposals AND the WILL OF THE COMMUNITY!
Formerworker, I urge you to start the online survey and let's try to stop LaBelle and the poor coaches before it deteriorates any further
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Post by devilsrus on Apr 19, 2007 7:34:56 GMT -5
Good morning Former, As I stated I am neither proponent nor detractor of the AD. I also stated that I am not completely familiar with the rules regarding tenure and expressed an interest in having the BOE explain the rules. I am neither short sighted or "one sighted" nor am I running interference for anybody. My concern, as already expressed, is that we do not allow distractions to the goal of passing the budget. Perhaps when the dust settles the AD will join with the "GREAT UNITER" in Roslyn. As far as your leaving the "chat" please don't! This board has served a distinct need of the community and is always informative and a voice of the people. Bette; does this issue of tenure have to be addressed "ASAP"? Do we, as a community, have input into who is granted tenure? As stated I dont know and would like to. On the issue of the Athletic Dept.; I am a strong supporter of Plainedge Athletics and have done my fair share to support all the teams we put on the field and will continue to do so. It is clear that the AD was placed here by the " GREAT UNITER", I thought the former AD Mr. Kramner did a superb job, he was visible, active and involved. Our budget situation of 2005 resulted in his departure(seeking stability for his family) and was our loss. Plainedge as a community, like many others, is committed to the betterment of its children. To that end we are all capable of handling more than one issue at a time. In my view, at this time, the budget issue is the most pressing. If anyone out there can clear up the issue of tenure: who gets it, how much time does a teacher or adminstrator have to invest before they become vested, are the rules diffirent for adminstrators vrs. teachers, does the community, the BOE or the BOE reflecting the community wishes get to grant tenure are all questions that I would like cleared up. In an ideal world we would see more educators of the caliber of Mr. Orlando(football game announcer, photographer and fan) who attend sports (and other) events in their spare time. Do I agree the AD should be more involved; yes, do I think the budget is the issue of the day;yes.
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Post by Go Plainedge! on Apr 19, 2007 7:47:21 GMT -5
Let me ad that I believe there is strength in numbers.
To that extent, there are many topics that are just as or more important to others. For some the budget is important, others Mr. LaBelle and for some voting in the new BOE members.
That being said, for those that feel they need to focus on the budget, great. You are part of that committee. For those that need to focus on LaBelle, you are on that committee. Go forth and conquer your goals. WE as a community CAN and SHOULD have different task-forces (if you will) to attack all important issues at the same time. WE as a community will be shortsighted if we only work on one issue at a time and ultimately never really getting ahead.
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Post by 1plainedge on Apr 19, 2007 8:18:44 GMT -5
Isn't Mrs Labelle the East Plain Nurse? Didn't that position re-open after sports spending was cut and the proposed "sharing" of nurses went back to one per school? She has done a FINE job but her hubby is a different issue.
Could it be that they carpool together to work? Could it be why he goes home so early and never watches a game?
It just appears that they are going to be here for the long haul unless quick action is taken. Most tenures I believe are granted in the Spring so the teachers know if they need to start looking for new work in the fall.
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Post by pedgegirl on Apr 19, 2007 16:18:54 GMT -5
Regarding Tenure procedures, rules, etc. I can enlighten - as a longtime, involved resident, aware of district procedures and as someone with teachers/administrators as family or friends.
GENERALLY (please note that), tenure for teachers MAY be granted after three years. A district may decide to hold off for a fourth year if they feel that the teacher has potential, but needs some more mentoring/guidance in certain areas. Some factors in the tenure decision are: MAINLY, classroom observations of teaching and interactions with students, etc. Taken into account may be dealings with or complaints from parents.
Tenure for administrators MAY be granted after two years. Again, the district may decide to hold off a year. Each administrative area is a new tenure. For example, if someone is an elementary school Principal, they may get tenured after two years. Then, they become Middle School Principal, starts a whole new tenure time period.
One thing I am not sure of is if a person has had tenure somewhere else in the past. For a teacher, then, they may only need two years in their new district. And, maybe the administrators already had it somewhere else (likely) so that's why they needed two.
In any event, if someone wanted input into a tenure decision, or wanted to say their piece, time would be of the essence. Plainedge used to hold their tenure reception in May at the Board Meeting, so decisions were definitely made by then. Now, that reception is at the June meeting, but many districts MUST notify their staff if they are or are not receiving tenure, being laid off, etc., in MARCH.
Also, as I am sure everyone would understand, if anyone wanted to impact ANY decision, you would have had to had some sort of trail or documentation of complaints, issues, etc., going back a while. That would have to be the case in ANY JOB in ANY BUSINESS.
Only those involved would know if that is the case here (that there is a paper trail or a record of the number of complaints/issues). Truthfully, if no one has spoken up until now, you would be unlikely to have any effect, as you would no matter the business. Their point of view, and rightfully so, would be, "Where have you been? You are telling us this NOW, if it has been bad for so long?"
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Post by devilsrus on Apr 19, 2007 16:36:35 GMT -5
Thank you PGirl, maybe the lesson is documentation of complaints(if any). The main issue, to me, is still passage of the budget. But...this new info goes a long way to further empower an already involved community.
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