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Post by elphaba65 on Sept 18, 2005 13:21:17 GMT -5
I don't know who you are, yet, but my guess is that you either got that ACE from someone else or you were around when my daughter petitioned to start the bible club at Plainedge HS when she was a 9th grader at which time she and I were labled A.C.E. -----A Christian Eccentric through the grapevine or is it coincidence that you should come up with ACE as you did?
Thanks for saving me time in reading old postings. My oldest and your daughter were in school at the same time. I was not aware you had other children. Arascabe states he/she has ten more years of kids in school, I am glad this is my last and I am very proud of her accomplishments.
Aside from me paying more taxes for an advisor of a club with just two members , I think I remember a few more things. Didn't you have a big argument at a school board meeting because they would not send your daughter to some BOCE class? (which would have cost me the taxpayer more)? Rumor also had it that you sued the school district ( don't know for what) but if true that also cost me more in taxes.
So let me get this straight, it was ok to spend more for your daughter but we have to do car washes so my daughter can participate in her sports? If you are who I think you are, weren't you a part of the group standing in the back of the gym celebrating when the budget was defeated while my daughter and her friends were on the curb crying?
If you have a personal beef with the scholld district all fine and good, but stop taking away from the other kids the activities and EDUCATION they should be entitled to.
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Post by elphaba65 on Sept 18, 2005 14:13:23 GMT -5
OPEN QUESTION: Why was the voting process for BOE seats changed from open as it used to be years ago to specific seat replacement as it is now? If someone wants to run they have to pick a specific person to run against. This means that if someone is a good candidate someone else can choose to run for the same seat even if they have no intention of winning just to take away votesand insure that the previous member keeps the seat. Should there be a "cap" on consecutive terms?
There was a proposition placed on the ballot, I'm guessing five or six years ago, by Michael Cimino. This was passed by the votors changing it to specific seats. You can always put up a proposition again changing it back to the largest number of votes.
Perhaps they should also have a rule that says no renters on the BOE. They should actually have to own a home here.
I agree, remember we did have a Board of Ed member for nine years that lived at home with his parents and had no children in school. KW had no stake in any of his votes as far as I'm concerned because none of his votes affected him personally.
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Post by jdavola on Sept 18, 2005 17:13:48 GMT -5
I don't know who this KW person is...but people that live with their parents and don't pay taxes personally,voting no on the budget and advocating that others vote no also???....boy, these sound like a great bunch...nice agenda...
Sounds like they really are trying to undermine all the good work that others are doing to make this a great COMMUNITY for ALL to enjoy...kids AND seniors both!!!
Peace out. Remember...pray for the victims.
JD
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Post by jdavola on Sept 18, 2005 17:18:29 GMT -5
Hey everyone!!
Remember to be informative, helpful and/or entertaining...don't offend anyone's tender sensibilities!!
It's all good.
FYI.....VOTE YES.
Love Y'all,
Peace out. Remember...pray for the victims.
Love, JD
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Post by Go Plainedge! on Sept 18, 2005 17:22:31 GMT -5
I agree, remember we did have a Board of Ed member for nine years that lived at home with his parents and had no children in school. KW had no stake in any of his votes as far as I'm concerned because none of his votes affected him personally. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there a current BOE member with that same situation?
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Post by elphaba65 on Sept 18, 2005 17:39:23 GMT -5
Go Plainedge,
You are absolutely correct! He may be a nice kid, but does he belong on a BOE? Just think, he was voted in rather than a lawyer, makes you wonder why.
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Post by jdavola on Sept 18, 2005 18:48:20 GMT -5
Hey ACE!!!
Guess I got the right name for you!!
Is what I read correct?...You were celebrating in the gym when the budget was defeated?? And school children were crying??? WHOA!!! where's the love there, sweetheart??
Talk about anti-education...I thought you said you wanted to help kids raise money for the drama club??...Do you say one thing and do another???
You wrote "truth, articulation and just facts"..I thought this site was all about putting out truthful info?...Where's your contribution??
Can't handle the truth?
Hey..you never got back to me about the BOGUS INFO you posted about those test scores....just where are the real facts??
Vote YES!!!
Peace out. Remember...pray for the victims.
Love y"all,
JD
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Post by yruohk on Sept 18, 2005 18:51:37 GMT -5
... part of the group standing in the back of the gym celebrating when the budget was defeated.....stop taking away from the other kids the activities and EDUCATION they should be entitled to. Let's set the record straight, the only action that took place in the gym that night besides students crying or the person I was standing by saying an expletive, was a young fellow throwing a chair against the wall which could have bounced into the crowd where children were. There was absolutely no one there cheering the defeat of the budget. I would never have known who voted against it by their presence in that gym. There were enough people there to recall that no such thing happened. This is the reason why people who are absent from these events or meetings perpetuate falsehoods passed on by those who "claim" that a story like this was true. This forum is about facts, not fiction and rumors. Those who meet in this forum do so for the purpose of bringing resolution to the district not to tear it apart. If you are here to help, begin by putting a lid on rumors.
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Post by jdavola on Sept 18, 2005 18:57:08 GMT -5
Hey ACE!!!
More BOGUS INFO.
Peace out. Remember...Pray for the victims.
JD
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Post by jdavola on Sept 18, 2005 19:15:53 GMT -5
Hey ACE!!!
It all seems to fit together...seems to fit right in place with your behavior the other night at the boe meeting...
Hey, Mr. ED...don't bother with your informal poll...everyone in the community seems now to have voted yes...maybe we should have those voting machines checked...
Peace out. Remember...Pray for the victims.
Love Y'all,
JD
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Post by techie on Sept 18, 2005 19:40:50 GMT -5
JD, You May have some points to consider on some topics, as I am always open to new thoughts. When you say "Just Vote YES" you forget that the next Budget for the kids is not now. We should all start to get into a better association where we can help to devise, contribute to and design a SOUND, FINANCIAL, COST EFFECTIVE BUDGET that will benefit the children of this district and all the taxpayers.
JD, I may be wrong again but I think that when "elphaba65" was refering to JW voting NO as a Board member, and not having a "stake", because he was living at home with parents and had no children, I think this was interpreted by others that JW voted NO on the Budgets as a community member in his time.This is a private matter as we know that ballots are secret. I think "elphaba65" was refering to Board votes. I hope that "elphaba65" can clarify for us their thoughts about this. Anyone in this country that is registered to vote has a stake. Anyone over the age of 18 and registered, has as much right as the rest of us to voice their opinion in these matters and that includes voting. This does not matter in how they come to live here. IF you are a renter (IN THIS DISTRICT) you should be able to vote on subjects here. IMHO. IF you happen to live with family, you are still just that, family, and have a vested interest.
With that said, let's move on.
I came accross an idea that JW had about changing the Tax Structure on Long Island. This idea as I understand is to take ALL the Commercial/Business Tax in EACH district in Nassau County and "POOL" it together. This would give back to each district an even reduction in tax credit. (lower for us) WE spend OUR money in other districts on Long Island because we do not have the commercial businesses here. such as Malls, Strip Malls, Golf Courses,Super Markets, etc... They benefit from our cash dollars and we get nothing in return. They get a lower tax levy on our spending. I think that JW had/has a very interesting idea that we should investigate further. The politicians may think that the voters in a certain area may be upset with this idea, but in reality the LARGER amount of voters in this county and in suffolk would benefit and this would mean more votes for any Politician that helped to back this change.
This is one idea that may make it easier on the taxpyers here, and still we would be able to afford MORE ,( in a responsible manner) for the Education and Activities for our kids.
JW, if you read this forum can you give us more information on your plan?
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Post by Go Plainedge! on Sept 18, 2005 19:41:44 GMT -5
Go Plainedge, You are absolutely correct! He may be a nice kid, but does he belong on a BOE? Just think, he was voted in rather than a lawyer, makes you wonder why. I don't know if I can give an honest assessment of whether he belongs there or not. However, the community voted him and it wasn't by a narrow margin - DP = 1,360 votes, DD = 998. The votes in and of it's self make a strong statement. I also don't believe that just because he is a lawyer (DiPrisco) does that necessarily make him the right choice. As I stated in prior posts - change is good. There are other current members I don't believe should be there either. They use this position as a means of elevating themselves (socially) in the community, rather than just simply doing the community a service. Nothing more, nothing less. But, the community voted them in and we have to live with that decision. You can compare it to the voting in of a president. You may have voted for someone else than the person that wins election. So, what do you do? You live with it until the next election. I have a lot of respect for the BOE and the time they contribute. We may not all agree with the decisions made, but no one can deny the time that it takes to be involved. I know that (as much as I would like to run for a spot) I would never be able to contribute that amount of time, thusly not serving the community to the fullest.
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Post by jdavola on Sept 18, 2005 19:49:15 GMT -5
Hey Go Plainedge!
That's how to show some love.
Peace out. Remember...pray for the victims.
JD
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Post by Go Plainedge! on Sept 18, 2005 20:00:23 GMT -5
"And in the end, The love you take, is equal to the love you make." The Beatles
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Post by honebee on Sept 18, 2005 20:02:53 GMT -5
You know, I am reading these postings and instead of reading informative postings and mature behavior, I feel like I am reading the musings of a kindergartener, except I don't think they'd act this childish. Plainedge Community, wake up, what kind of examples are you to all your children? You are more childish then any of them are. They are using whatever resources they have to meet a goal, that of reinstating the extracurricular activities. I applaud their resolve, but I don't applaud you so-called name calling adults who banter and argue back and forth and say absolutely nothing of any worth. The bottom line is that the school taxes as well as the county taxes on L.I. are out of hand. We, as a community, have to put our heads together to make sure that everything that goes on within our school community is honest, above any type of scandal, thoughtful of our seniors as well as our children and done with a stable, logical approach. Name calling, repetitive thoughtless comments and badgering one another is going to accomplish absolutely nothing. It will not get the "no's" to vote "yes", it will not get the "yes's" to vote "no". If the children's scores are higher, it's because the teachers and the children have worked hard together to make this happen. I don't believe any administrator, BOE, etc. should pat themselves on the back. I am happy if the kids are doing better. That's what an excellent education should do. All the extras may make everyone happy, but it's really not required. I'm not saying we shouldn't have it, I'm saying we need to find a way where the activities are available, but the people in the community that can't afford to live do not have to sell their houses and move away from family to survive. Community, do you want you mothers and fathers to leave their grandchildren and move down south? Do you want to work two and three jobs to make ends meet and not have the quality time nor the energy to spend with your children? I know I don't want to see these things happen. We do need to make a change. All of us on L.I. have to be instrumental in making a change on L.I. The people in CA made something happen with Proposition 13. Our forefather's threw the tea overboard during The Boston Tea Party to make a statement. Well people, we have to do something too or L.I. will only be filled with the very rich who don't worry about money, or the very poor who have nothing to pay because they have nothing. The middle class will cease to exist here. I would like to see an end to the nonsense postings on this website and see some constructive suggestions of how we can make a difference here on Long Island. Thank you.
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