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Post by Go Plainedge! on Sept 15, 2005 21:37:09 GMT -5
Did anyone attend the meeting tonight? Please share any notes and information you may have.
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Post by archer99 on Sept 16, 2005 6:47:23 GMT -5
As far as could be found so far,... the TAPING of CONVERSATIONS IN NEW YORK STATE is AGAINST the LAW, unless ALL parties are informed. BUT,... this DOES NOT APPLY TO PUBLIC MEETINGS!!! Perhaps someone with a LAW degree in NYS can clarify. Just another reason to Webcast the meetings!
Tom Dick wasn't at the meeting? Wonder if he was at the convention?
"GO PLAINEDGE!" The meeting was taped last night by "YRUOHK" so I think she will post a little later with so more information.
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Post by Go Plainedge! on Sept 16, 2005 7:46:22 GMT -5
Here is a webpage to site the law from....research may be needed to confirm...(you have to copy and paste the link , I think the parenthesis in the address are causing the error). wings.buffalo.edu/law/bclc/web/NewYork/ny3(b).htm2. "Mechanical overhearing of a conversation" means the intentional overhearing or recording of a conversation or discussion, without the consent of at least one party thereto, by a person not present thereat, by means of any instrument, device or equipment. Does that mean Yruohk gave her concent as she was one of the parties present?
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Post by honebee on Sept 16, 2005 11:54:54 GMT -5
Well, first off the tape recorder was not hidden. Secondly, this was not a conversation between one or two parties, it was a public meeting. I was rather surprised that they taped the meeting themselves and the questions of those present without informing us that we were being taped, yet one of the BOE made such a big issue about Yruohk taping it. They made sure they asked for each of our names as well, so where is the cloak and dagger? This was no covert mission, it was a PUBLIC MEETING. After minutes are taken, it's supposed to become public record anyway. I was a former legal secretary, I may be wrong, but I don't see the problem. Also, Yruohk was shot down for announcing this website. They were about to close the meeting as soon as Yruohk got up to tell people about this website. Fortunately some members of the community stood up and told the BOE that if we have to politely listen to what they have to say, even if we don't agree with them, they should give us, the taxpayers and community the same coutesy to say what we need to say even if they don't like it.
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Post by yruohk on Sept 16, 2005 12:07:59 GMT -5
Even without calling my attorney, I know that public meetings can be taped. Just think of any public meeting where the PRESS brings in their "larger than home video taping equipment". Are our rights less than theirs? I will post as much as I can from my taped recording of the meeting. The taping serves me better as I can remember what's been said rather than relying on my rusty speedwriting skills or memory. Both can produce inaccurate results but it's amazing how wonderful it is to be able to playback a tape for those who missed the meeting due to work, family or conventions. At this time, I want to post only a portion as I haven't had the chance to transcribe all that's on the tape. There wasn't anything brought up during the question & answer period that wasn't important but I must say one of the most important moments of this meeting was the deliberate attempt to silence anyone whose questions or comments were not what Rich-man and the BOE wanted to hear. This Community Forum is available for all...Taxpayers, Parents, Students, Business owners, Residents of the Plainedge School District. And when I attempted to announce my email address for those who wanted to contact me for the URL for this forum, there was a SHOUT from members of the BOE as well as Rich-man to ADJOURN! Members of the public objected but there was an attempt to shout them down as well. One resident wanted to ask a question and was told to come up to the Board members to ask it privately. It's all on tape! How sad it is to see elected adults and employees of the taxpayer behave in such a manner! What have we here? A pattern of censorship! If they don't like, shut us up. The Drama club must meet their goal to be able to continue in their pursuit of their dreams. Please let all know to purchase from them the lovely jewelry being sold. I have a very emotional plea to the BOE and the community from 2 young students on behalf of the club on tape. It's moving. I was contacted by a parent via my email and I've sent her the URL for this forum so that their request can be posted here for anyone who wants to contribute to their efforts to raise the needed funds.
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Post by jdavola on Sept 16, 2005 12:08:19 GMT -5
Hey Yruohk!!!
Nice display last night!! Instead of asking a legit question in order to get the REAL facts on test scores (instead of the BOGUS INFO YOU POSTED earlier) you decided to open up your pie hole and try to create a diversion -- but that's what you and those of your ilk -- you know-- a bunch of library dwelling, anti-education, anti-child rabble rousers....
Peace out....remember...pray for the victims!!
Love y'all,
J.D.
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Post by Go Plainedge! on Sept 16, 2005 12:33:44 GMT -5
What a horrible image that has entered my mind after reading the last few posts of this thread.
Was this a school board meeting or a thrash party?
Regardless of what was being done or asked, JDavola, do you think this is anyway for adults at a board meeting to act? I'm sorry I wasn't there as I had a previous engagement to attend to. I thought about recording the meetings too. I don't like to miss any details and like YOU say, everyone should attend the board meetings for the truth. I haven't brushed up on my shorthand so recording is a great option (just like the minutes are done). Why should the BOE be opposed to it? Are they trying to keep information within the four walls? Or, are they trying to prevent information being thrown back at them so they can deny they ever said it?
The actions that took place at this meeting (from what I read) are very disheartening. The Administration and BOE should maintain higher standards in their actions and comments. They should rise above the actions and comments by any member of the community.
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Post by Admin on Sept 16, 2005 12:53:31 GMT -5
The Drama club must meet their goal to be able to continue in their pursuit of their dreams. Please let all know to purchase from them the lovely jewelry being sold. I have a very emotional plea to the BOE and the community from 2 young students on behalf of the club on tape. It's moving. I was contacted by a parent via my email and I've sent her the URL for this forum so that their request can be posted here for anyone who wants to contribute to their efforts to raise the needed funds. She can either give you the information or post it here and I will add it to the Calendar.
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Post by yruohk on Sept 16, 2005 13:04:39 GMT -5
BOGUS INFO ....diversion -- anti-child .... Peace out....remember...pray for the victims!! Love y'all, J.D. I see that you hit the nail on the head but you are the one doing the misdirecting in identifying the characters. It's evident to the community who it is who delivers BOGUS INFO and who Diverts from the real issues. As for anti-child, linking to inappropriate material on the children's websites is PRO-CHILD? Mr. "Davola", your attempt to "diagnose" results in "misdiagnosis". Try another career. And yes, many of us do "pray for the victims"....OUR CHILDREN! PS...so that no one is mistaken, I certainly am not blaming any teacher, many of whom I know for years and hold in high regard for their commitment to our children, for the "open doors" linking to inappropriate material. No one expects everyone to be perfectly adept at building websites and that is why the district hired a CIO, Cynthia LaPier to oversee the technology, computers and anything pertaining to them. It is the responsibility of the CIO to close any open doors to cyberspace and assure the parents of this community that their child doesn't have liberties at school that parents would not allow at home.
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Post by jdavola on Sept 16, 2005 14:00:54 GMT -5
Hey Yruohk...nice try at diversion!! Where are the real test scores?? I need to come up with a better name for you...let's see....something appropriate....since you are really about Anti Child and anti Education...I'll call you ACE. So, ACE we really know this is all about the kids. They are getting a great education...test scores have NEVER been better...because of all of their hard work, the hard work of the parents, the hard work of the teachers and the hard work of every BOE member and the District Super. In SPITE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU who just want to cause trouble, divert attention from the real issues and to get people to vote no on the budget. It costs money to run a school district....GET OVER IT!!! Well it won't work. People caught onto your lame act. People want the great strides we have made to continue! So keep on yapping.
VOTE YES.
Peace out. Remember...pray for the victims.
JD
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Post by Go Plainedge! on Sept 16, 2005 14:32:47 GMT -5
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Post by techie on Sept 16, 2005 14:55:43 GMT -5
I for one think that "jdavola" is RIGHT!
We all should vote YES to the next budget!That is of course, as long as it is sound, truthful and financially correct, and in the best interest of the children and community.... ;D Also "YRUOHK" has a very good point about the teachers. Our BOE and Administration and ALL of us have something to be proud of. If you go to ratemyteachers.com you can see most of the teachers in our district get VERY high marks from the kids. This is a way of showing how well they are doing. Thanks Teachers! OPEN QUESTION:Why was the voting process for BOE seats changed from open as it used to be years ago to specific seat replacement as it is now? If someone wants to run they have to pick a specific person to run against. This means that if someone is a good candidate someone else can choose to run for the same seat even if they have no intention of winning just to take away votesand insure that the previous member keeps the seat. Should there be a "cap" on consecutive terms? PS: If anyone has a use for 8-10 electric pianos/keyboards they can be found in the closets at the "OLD" Packard school! we really have to get an inventory of all the things left there.
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Post by rinx on Sept 16, 2005 15:22:40 GMT -5
Perhaps they should also have a rule that says no renters on the BOE. They should actually have to own a home here.
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Post by rinx on Sept 16, 2005 15:42:18 GMT -5
I wanted to clarify ...I don't know if any BOE member is a renter or not. I simply think that it should be a rule that any member of the BOE should own a home here. Just my opinion.
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Post by justfacts on Sept 16, 2005 15:52:45 GMT -5
And then "jdavola" came back again with the usual non-productive, take a jab at everyone, comments.
Jd, can't you simply not behave like a child, trying to make fun of Yruohk's handle? You make up an attempted slur on her character by creating from the depths of your own stilted character, another name based on the negative views you harbor.
It would seem that leaves you, in reciprocal fairness, exposed to the creativity of others to make up something about your handle - - - like:
A Lot Of Vitrolic Against District Justice
or how about:
A Load Of Verbage And Distorted Jabber ?
The letters are backward because too many times you have operated backward toward the purpose of this Forum.
How about rethinking your approach? The present one is not earning you any respect. With the sincere hope that you may start to contribute something positive to this Forum.
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